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3/11/2010: Letter to the Editor

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Published: Thursday, March 11, 2010

Updated: Thursday, March 11, 2010

Monday's editorial condemning the Senate for passing a resolution concerning the Graduate Walk was misleading and poorly researched. Allow me to clarify the points that you did not.

First of all, when the 2010 class gift committee decided to transform the "Class Gift" project into a legacy project that would continue and build upon itself every year, the intention from the beginning was to make the fee mandatory. It was not until Student Government Concurrent Resolution No. 1 was introduced this spring that the idea of an "opt-out" clause was suggested. All of the members of the class gift committee supported this idea. We were later told by various University administrators, including our landscape architect, that this project would not be sustainable nor would we be able to set a steady fee without full student participation. We therefore had no control over the exclusion of the opt-out clause, and the Senate understood this fact.

Second, the intent was always to go to the students for a vote. However, after several meetings with members of administration, we were told that the university only has about a 60 percent graduation rate. Therefore, not even 2/3 of the students able to vote on this fee would actually be paying it, so it would be inappropriate to send the referendum to the students. We were further advised that we could construct a memo concerning this fee that would go through campus administrators and to the Chancellor for approval. However, the committee felt that this would deprive the student body of any voice in this matter. Therefore, Student Government Resolution No. 4 was introduced for the Senate – which is compiled of elected student representatives – to advocate the implementation of the fee.

Third, you claim that "these behind-the-scenes machinations paint a picture of student representatives in an ivory tower." Nothing that was done was behind the scenes; it was all conducted in an open forum, and even garnered coverage from the Reveille in the weeks preceding last week's vote. All meetings of the Senate are open to the student body, and a portion is set aside at the beginning of each meeting for members of the public to address concerns to the Senate. To say that the Senate "forced this fee on the students under the radar" is simply untrue. The committee purposely took this issue to the Senate when the matter could have gone straight to the Chancellor without anyone knowing about it.

The committee made this matter as transparent as possible, including having multiple conversations with the Reveille and the full senate to make sure everyone knew where we stood each step of the way.

Fourth, the vast majority of students that we have personally spoken with fully supported the project and the implementation of the fee once it was explained to them. However, neither of us, nor any other member of the class gift committee was contacted to get the facts before you wrote this piece.

In the future, please contact myself or another member of the Senate before you are critical of what actions we take. We are elected to make decisions on behalf of the Student Body and are entrusted to act on their behalf. Thirty-six senators believed that supporting this program is the best thing for the University, while ten disagreed.

The project that will be funded by the $30 fee (not $35 as your headline read) will be a landmark on the LSU campus and something in which we should all take pride. For little more than the price of a night out in Tigerland, we can all leave a lasting mark on this campus that will be revered many years after we are gone. We are both personally honored at the prospect of being included in the first class of graduates to be included in the Graduate Walk.

Tyler Martin
Speaker of the Senate
Senator, E.J. Ourso College of Business
LSU Student Government

Tiffany Compagno
Chair, 2010 Class Gift Committee
Senator, College of Education
LSU Student Government

Contact The Daily Reveille's opinion staff at opinion@lsureveille.com

Comments

12 comments
Anonymous
Thu Mar 18 2010 14:20
i've spent time some googling, and i've found that bricks cost around 2 dollars.

i'm now confused.

Anonymous
Mon Mar 15 2010 13:53
Wait, people still expect Student Government to be accountable to its constituents and not just do whatever they want so they can talk about a project they coordinated? That's cute.
Jeffrey Noel
Fri Mar 12 2010 10:48
In response to the person who would not even comment with their name. I spent $40, had no ticket, made no pushcards or signs. But im sure I must just be oh so bitter.

I'm more angry and bitter that the SG senate tried to wiggle their way out of something that they should have done: put this to a student vote. I just find it funny that SG changes the rules depending on how they want things to operate. SG represents SG. And those in it represent their own agendas. (Not all of those in it but many of them.) Just be honest and say that this is something for a resume so that you can graduate and go into a career in politics. Just remember that you can get away with this crap in college SG politics but not in the real world... oh wait! You can in the real world too. I guess I should just say congrats for acting like real politicians already.

Graduate Walk to Nowhere
Thu Mar 11 2010 20:52
How does this project coincide with SG's mission to serve the students at LSU? Also, why is this being rammed down students throats without more input? No broadcast message, no articles, nothing!
Smokestack
Thu Mar 11 2010 18:30
And honestly, you know better than anyone, that the students who would take the time to educate themselves on the candidates and referendums on the SG ballot and actually vote would be in the 60 percent who graduate. Especially considering only 33 percent of the student body voted last year...
Smokestack
Thu Mar 11 2010 18:04
"For a little more than a night out in Tiger Land" - nice attempt at relating to your constituents. You sound like a 10th grade biology teacher that walks in the classroom and says, "What's up, homies."

I wonder what happened to the "self-sustaining" class gift project that was touted by Senate and SG executive members in 2009? Oh, no I don't. There wasn't enough interest in the bricks in the Dodson courtyard to turn a profit for the 2010 class's project. How many bricks did you sell, SG? Enough to make you think a majority of students care about this project?

So is this how SG saves face on their colossal failure at a legacy? Hey, if students don't volunteer to pay for a 4-pound slab of concrete with their name on it, make them. Wasn’t the original intention of the Class Gift project to beautify a different part of campus every year? Now we get a brick border to the parade ground? Why start this massive "campus beautification" project? Who said they wanted bricks around the Parade Grounds anyway? Where was the poll on that decision? Good thing you guys appointed a statistician. I'm 98 percent positive there is enough space for students who are dying to have a brick to have one in the Dodson courtyard.

Honestly, I know most of you have good intentions. But quick-changes like this are exactly why people believe SG is full of resume-padders and spoiled rich kids.

Anonymous
Thu Mar 11 2010 16:52
Mr. Noel, you seem to know a thing or two about student government. I would then assume that you know how to let your voice be heard by contacting the senators (all contact information in available on the website sg.lsu.edu) and that you know that you are given the chance to address the entire body at the beginning of each and every meeting in "Public Input". Sadly, you chose to not have your voice heard when you kept your views and opinions private until after this decision was made, opting instead to attack those elected by the student body (something you yourself failed to do just last spring, and are probably still bitter about) in the online comment section of this fine news outlet.
Jon Frosch
Thu Mar 11 2010 15:58
"Fourth, the vast majority of students that we have personally spoken with fully supported the project and the implementation of the fee once it was explained to them."

This smacks of the old saw, "I don't know how Nixon got elected--I don't know anybody who voted for him."

Anonymous
Thu Mar 11 2010 15:55
"several of them spoke to as many students as they could. "

Their roommates, friends and family don't really count.

me and both my roommates are in each in different colleges -- and our of our three colleges, NONE of us knew of this before the reveille editorial. where the eff are our senators? far as i'm concerned, they did NOTHING to gauge input.

Jeffrey Noel
Thu Mar 11 2010 13:35
Congrats to LSU SG for trying to wiggle their way out of sending this proposition to a vote of the student body. The SG constitution states that "any proposal to levy, amend, repeal, or otherwise regulate any student self-assessment which affects the entire Student Body must be approved by a majority of the members of the Student Body voting in the Fall or Spring Primary Election." All that wordy babble being said, I can't help but find flaw in SG's logic that only 60% of the student body ends up graduating.

First of all, how do they know which 60% the statistics are talking about? And why take away the voice of 60% of the students anyway? (And if we want to throw in other statistics, lets see the graduation rate of people who actually vote in these elections. Because far from the entire student body actually votes.)

On top of that, the 60% is not a static number. LSU does not restrict graduation so what if there is a spike in graduation rates? With the university continually raising admission standards, shouldn't it be assumed that graduation rate will also increase? There are countless other reasons why the graduation rate could increase. While I concede that graduation rate will never reach 100%, what is the line where we can simply eliminate the students direct voice to their fees? Its pretty obvious that SG senate does not represent the entire student body.

So thanks for taking away my voice. In this wonderful financial period that we all find ourselves in, I'm really excited about paying an extra $30 for some brick rather than a tank of gas or groceries.

In summary: SG Senate, you suck.

Sincerely,
Jeffrey Noel

Anonymous
Thu Mar 11 2010 12:23
Each Senator represents roughly 500 students. Therefore, 36 senators x 500 people each = 18,000 students. Now, obviously, not every Senator spoke to all 500 of the people they represent... but I know that several of them spoke to as many students as they could.
Anonymous
Thu Mar 11 2010 11:02
"In the future, please contact myself or another member of the Senate before you are critical of what actions we take. We are elected to make decisions on behalf of the Student Body and are entrusted to act on their behalf. Thirty-six senators believed that supporting this program is the best thing for the University, while ten disagreed."

Does thirty-six votes reflect the views of the Student Body?

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